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From:(Anonymous)
Date:August 7th, 2006 01:03 am (UTC)
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If the team is the best team in the world, then they should be called "World Champions"... enough said!

The counterargument is about as weak as saying:
Italy aren't really World Champions because even though they won the World Cup, Vatican City and some small Pacific islands' national teams aren't part of FIFA, so even though those countries would stand no chance against Italy, it's not fair to call Italy world champs until they beat those countres in live competition.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:August 7th, 2006 01:05 am (UTC)
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-Joe Gravellese
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(I hate when people post anonymously and I feel bad for doing it. I just forgot my password.)
From:(Anonymous)
Date:August 7th, 2006 01:08 am (UTC)
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And, in case this isn't clear enough, it's not just America competing, it IS the world.

The battles are staged in American cities, sure, but the players in all American sports come from every corner of the world to play here.

This is such a silly "debate" that I'd rather it not even continue. But if anyone wants to make another ignorant comment, they can feel free to do so... it's quite entertaining.

-Joe Gravellese
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From:sophia
Date:August 7th, 2006 02:37 am (UTC)

no longer a debate, just questions?

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yeah i'm quite ignorant about american sports. (all sports? :P)

so there isn't a good american basketball club? (i.e. many players are non american? there aren't any composition rules like in europe football clubs?)

offtopic i guess.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:August 7th, 2006 02:44 am (UTC)

Re: no longer a debate, just questions?

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Most NBA players are still from the US. But as was demonstrated in the 04 Olympics, many GREAT players come from all over the globe, especially Europe. I'd say on an average 12-man team 10 of 'em are from the US and 2 from overseas. The main point is, the best players in the world, from every country, play in the NBA.

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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 08:35 am (UTC)
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Yes it is entertaining. The way you throw untested and unproven statements and allegations. Although NBA [looks] like the best quality in the world, this still means nothing. Of course they can call their champions World Champion, Sun System Champion, Galactic Champion or whatever they like, but still its just a word and gives no credibility to anyone except the domestic public, which so easily buys such cheap P.R. tricks.

Again, the same example: the English FA Premiership.
"And, in case this isn't clear enough, it's not just [England] competing, it IS the world." <-- there are players from dozens of nationalities in the Premiership; the Premiership contains the largest capital among all leagues, when you take the value of all its clubs combined; the Premiership hosts the largest number of players who are playing for their national teams, and the biggest representation on the latest World Cup; etc etc etc.

"The battles are staged in [English] cities, sure, but the players in all [English] [football] come from every corner of the world to play here. <-- this is true, too. But does it mean the English champion (now, Chelsea) is the world champion? NO WAY. They're not even a continental champion, let alone a world one.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 08:25 am (UTC)
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Dude, try this.

http://www.livejournal.com/lostinfo.bml

I hope it'll work. I know how annoying it is to lose your account this way...
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 06:09 pm (UTC)
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Did you follow that link to retrieve your password? I'd feel good if i knew i helped at least one person, even though he called me an idiot ;)
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 08:23 am (UTC)
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Nonsense.

Italy won the final of an international competition which is recognised by all football associations (maybe with the exception of Vatican City and some small Pacific islands) as the one and only football competition which determines the champion of the world. It is called WORLD CUP.

Your not even talking about a football club here! Where's the link!?

On club level, there was something like a world cup which hosts the winners of the continental champions' tournaments of all continents. It is called FIFA Club World Championship. Its organised by FIFA, therefore its legitimate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Club_World_Championship

The current world club champion is São Paulo FC from Brazil. They beat Liverpool on the final. This year's CWC will take place in Japan in December. Barcelona are said to be the favourites, but they ARE NOT world champions until they win that trophy!

If Miami Heat go to an international tournament organised by FIBA, with the participation of the European champion, the Asian, African, etc champions and they win it, only then they can call themselves world champion. But even before going there, they'll have to prove that they're the best team on their continent! No matter how funny and useless this sounds to you.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 08:47 am (UTC)
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(maybe with the exception of Vatican City and some small Pacific islands)

In case you attempt to tackle this sentence, i'll just mention that the whole world has signed the Kyoto Protocol except USA, and the whole world recognises the Geneva Charter of Children Rights, except USA. But the lack of support from USA doesnt make these two documents illegitimate.