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Aug. 6th, 2006 @ 09:49 pm Cry baby cry ;)
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Another amusing episode in Chelski's history in the era of Mr Exceptional.

Unknowns humble Chelsea's all-stars

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MLS All Stars' captain Jaime Moreno holds the winning throphy
as he celebrates with his teammates after they beat Chelsea,
1-0, in a friendly soccer match game at Toyota Park, Bridgeview, Illinois.

CHELSEA has a team of international superstars and the high-priced roster to go along with them.

In soccer, though, fitness trumps fame.

Dwayne De Rosario scored in the 70th minute night and backup goalkeeper Joe Cannon made several late saves to preserve the MLS All-Stars' 1-0 victory over Chelsea, the two-time Premier League champion.

"Without legs, it's very difficult to play football. My players were without legs," Chelsea coach Jose Mourinho said. "For me this was a training session against other players. And no more than that." <- how pathetic

MLS sees blanking Chelsea as sign of league's progressChicago Tribune <- well thats only partially true

In fact, Moaninho is also partially right, because Chelski are still far from their season form, while the MLS season is already on. But thats no excuse for the multi-million "dream-team" of Abramovich. Football is not only about million-transfers, salaries and fame. Its played with the feet, but also with the brain and with the heart.
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From:rebel_waltz
Date:August 6th, 2006 06:59 pm (UTC)
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i've never hated Chelsea but i can't help but feel a little giddy inside when they fall on their asses.
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From:rebel_waltz
Date:August 6th, 2006 07:00 pm (UTC)
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though i don't understand why they got that big trophy and all the confetti.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 6th, 2006 07:39 pm (UTC)
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Me neither :::)
Well they're addicted to it.
They call all their domestic sports competitions "World Title", after all ;)
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From:rebel_waltz
Date:August 6th, 2006 08:23 pm (UTC)
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haha yeah, we do. i remember when i was little and i was watching the Super Bowl and it dawned on me, how are we world champions? we didn't play anyone else. that pretty much sealed it for me on American sports.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 6th, 2006 10:38 pm (UTC)
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Thats a funny fact revealing pretty much about the arrogant side of yer ppl. I love that. Btw, it first dawned me as i was watching NBA. They called it "the World Title" all the time, and later when i watched the REAL world basketball cup and how DreamTeam USA got punished by everyone, i was ROFLing through the whole tournament! "What, THAT's the World Champs!?" XD
From:(Anonymous)
Date:August 6th, 2006 11:58 pm (UTC)
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Way to make sweeping generalizations about a whole people, asshole.

Let me take valuable time out of my important, arrogant American day to educate you (although that shouldn't be necessary, because people from the rest of the world are SOOO smart and we're so dumb, right?).

99% of the people you see playing in the basketball world championships for the other countries that beat the US are in the NBA.

The best players in the world, from any country, play in the NBA. This is a generally acknowledged fact by anyone who is not a dipshit.

Therefore, using deductive reasoning-
1. The best players in the world play in the NBA
2. The winner of the NBA title is the best club in the NBA
So
3. The winner of the NBA title is the best club in the world.

The same can be said about MLB. The Japan league is good, but NOBODY disputes the fact that the MLB is better. Even if the US doesn't have the world's best players, the world's best players COME to the US.

Nobody with any actual knowledge of American sports disputes this fact. If there were another league that was even in the same stratosphere as the NBA in terms of quality, then they probably wouldn't call them the world champs. Look at MLS, the MLS champ isn't called World Champ because that would be a farce.

Do some research, you idiot.

I hate foreign snobs who think they're so smart and yet have absolutely no clue what they're talking about.

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From:sophia
Date:August 7th, 2006 12:51 am (UTC)
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so what if you are the best? do you need to think you are the world?

a common 'complaint' about the US is "they think they are the world", and this is a good example of it.

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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 08:10 am (UTC)
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First of all, why this tone? Using inflammatory terms/categories reveals some weakness. We're trying to have a civilised discussion, arent we? Or your just incapable of maintaining one? Otherwise, i'd have to conclude that your not very sure about what your talking about.

Because "best in the world" is not a very clear category, and in any case, its too subjective to allow you to speak with such absolute certainty. NBA [is said!!!] to host the best players in the world. But the NBA champ CANNOT be called world champ, until they face any other foreign team, like the FIBA champ for example. Even if the NBA champ wins 9 out of 10 such finals, still, they have to stand a legitimate challenge. Until then, who is the best in the world and whos not, is just some useless talk of two dumbheads like you and me. Pointless debate here.

So, i dont argue about #1 and #2. But i do not agree with #3. Because:

Many ppl say the English Premiership currently has the best quality in the world as a whole. Because: 1. The best players in the world play in the Premiership. 2. The winner of the Premiership is the best club in the Premiership. So, the winner of the Premiership is the best club in the world!?!? NOT AT ALL! As we can see, obviously thats not the case. A team is not "the best" when it has the most expensive /or most famous/ players in the world. Just look at Real Madrid and you'll see what i mean.

Of course, many will argue that its not the Premiership, but the Spanish League, or Italian Serie A, just because the best players COME to one or the other league; but nevertheless, you still cannot call Barcelona world champion, even though they're European champions (AFTER A HARD-FOUGHT CONTINENTAL/INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION, WHERE THEY DESERVEDLY WON THE TITLE!!!, and i'm saying this as an Arsenal fan!). First they have to face the South American, Asian, African, North American and Oceanian club champs in a competition! Its not even enough to face the Copa Libertadores winner in the Intercontinental Cup in Tokyo, thats not a legitimate "world champion final" because the European and Sudamerican teams are only SAID TO BE the best. THEY HAVE TO PROVE IT! Got it?

Dunno whos idiot, dipshit, asshole, snob, etc, but it usually requires at least two brain cells to grasp the facts. I hope you got them.


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From:dondlion
Date:August 6th, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)
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Mourinho was typically ungracious. Ass.
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From:almadri
Date:August 6th, 2006 09:23 pm (UTC)
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Is the soccer field at ToyotaPark smaller than the ones in the World Cup? It looked awfully crowded on the pitch yesterday. Ballack kept shifting from one side of the field to another and poor Sheva was just running around trying to get the ball, but he was pretty much ignored.
I've never watched pre-season friendlies before, but Chelsea just looked very lethargic and disorganized. The only solid communication and connections happened between Terry, Lampard and Ferreira. Ferreira was surprisingly good. I don't understand why he was benched most of the times by Portugal in the World Cup. Ballack had a decent amount of steals, and I was kind of surprised that Robben would take corner kicks instead of Lampard. I haven't followed the club until recently, but do they use Robben as a playmaker too?
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From:gobi_rex
Date:August 6th, 2006 10:27 pm (UTC)
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Is the soccer field at ToyotaPark smaller than the ones in the World Cup? It looked awfully crowded on the pitch yesterday.

So it's not just me. I was also a little put off by the quality of the grass, too, especially considering how the commentators praised the facilities.

Btw, here's what Wiki has to say about field dimensions:
The length of pitch for international matches should be in the range 100 m - 110 m (110-120 yards) and the width should be in the range 65 m - 75 m (70-80 yards). For other matches the constraints are looser: 90 m - 120 m (100-130 yards) length by 45 m - 90 m (50-100 yards) width. The pitch must be longer than it is wide.
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From:uncsoccerrox
Date:August 6th, 2006 11:16 pm (UTC)
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I wasn't surprised Chelsea lost. They weren't playing too great, losing the ball a lot. I'm surprised Mourinho didn't blame the heat XD Chelsea wasn't even trying that hard. I mean, what significance would it have if they won? I bet very little people are watching in the UK and it doesn't count for anything anyway.

But, MLS did surprisingly well without Donavan or Pope.
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From:tassbeam
Date:August 7th, 2006 12:22 am (UTC)
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Chelsea as a team had more players at the WC than any other team so they're probably all tired. Still funny though!
From:chesegundo
Date:August 7th, 2006 08:24 am (UTC)
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Just another evidence of European football being the weakest in the world. I'm not surprised.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 08:40 am (UTC)
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Thats an unproven statement too (see above).
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From:guybrush_lustri
Date:August 7th, 2006 10:19 am (UTC)
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Because anyone actually cares about preseason friendlies?

Heck, Liverpool just lost 5-0 to Mainz, and I'd bet that 90% of people couldn't even tell me what league Mainz are in.
From:chesegundo
Date:August 7th, 2006 12:27 pm (UTC)
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Everything counts. Also recall all the World Club Championships and Europeans' participation. Especially I love MU against Necaxa.

Mainz is quite a decent German club. No wonder it's beaten Liverpool. What was wonder, was Liverpool winning the CL. Although to me any club winning CL is a wonder. In most cases when a European club wins a game, it's a wonder too.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 06:19 pm (UTC)
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ROFLMAO. You're a hopeless case :>
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From:guybrush_lustri
Date:August 7th, 2006 10:16 am (UTC)
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Absolutely nobody cares about preseason friendlies.

Liverpool lost 5-0 to Mainz with a near full-strength team. Nobody cares. It's just a chance to get a run and try things out.
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From:almadri
Date:August 7th, 2006 10:46 am (UTC)
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Liverpool lost 5-0? What did they try out? Gerrard as goalkeeper?
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 7th, 2006 06:20 pm (UTC)
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Someone cares, it turns out. Its unofficial, yes. These games dont go into the stats. But then, think about the Mainz fans ;}
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 8th, 2006 08:15 am (UTC)
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The point of this post is about Chelsea's attitude to a game like this, even though the result is surely the last thing that matters. And especially Mourinho's attitude/excuses. The question is not whether the game matters or whether anyone gives a damn about it.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:August 10th, 2006 11:59 pm (UTC)
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LOLOLOL You people slay me.

Even IF the Premiership is the best league in the world, the gulf between the Premiership and the 2nd best league-- take your pick La Liga, Serie A, whatever-- is a billion times smaller than the gap between the NBA and FIBA or whatever other basketball league you can name. Same in the other American sports. Sheesh!

The top Premiership teams play every year in the Champions League, how often do they win it? Does one league ever DOMINATE the Champions league? No. There is legitimate debate about what's the best soccer league. There is NO such debate about the best basketball, baseball or American football league. None. If you think there is, I won't blame you for being uninformed, because these are not the sports of your homeland, so you shouldn't be expected to know a lot about them. But I do blame you for trying to make a statement based upon something you don't know anything about.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 11th, 2006 03:10 pm (UTC)
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Actually my country has just a couple of sports that it excells in: handball, chess and em, eating pickled lamb's testicles :p

But still, i got pretty much information. That was not my point. It was: even if NBA are apparently way better than anyone else, they gotta prove it in a legitimate competition. Let'em smash all opposition by 120:40, then put the World Champ crown on their heads. Not earlier.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:August 11th, 2006 03:12 pm (UTC)
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You didnt retrieve your password yet? :/